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Anyone have any opinions on the AAM? I'm interested in it. In particular,how well does it work and can you specify a particular RA/Dec to go to?Also, if I manually move the Dec/RA of the scope (i.e.

By releasing theclamps and moving the tube with my hands), does the AAM track my movementsso the RA/Dec that it reports are correct OR do I always have to move thescope using the AAM? I'm curious since I found one for a good price and wasinterested in hearing if it is worth it.-Rob MillerRemove the 'x.' In front of myemail address to send me email.Chuck Hancock DMD24.04.99 00:00. Rob,I.think.

the AAM is the same as my Lumicon NGC SkyVector from Lumicon.If so, it tells you whare to point, but all the movement is done theold-fashioned way. With the SkyVec, there are three models, ditto theOrion model, and these appear to be the same, only relabeled, too.You can use the RA/Dec mode, and the handheld computer device tells youwhere your telescope is pointing. The SkyVec is always On, so it knowswhere you are pointing at all times.If the price is Really Good, get it, but beware of hidden costs, likethe mounting hardware. BTW, Lumicon has 8192-step encoders available.Regular Strength. encoders are 2000-step, and I've seen 4000-stepencoders advertized as Hi-resolution. OTOH, if the mounting hardware isincluded w/ your deal, and it was designed For Your Telescope, it maymake for a very well integrated package, possibly better than a3d-party's hardware mounting scheme.Best regs,Chuck HancockChris Marriott24.04.99 00:00. Rob Miller wrote in message.Anyone have any opinions on the AAM?It's one of the plethora of 'Tangent B-Box' devices on the market; it'sexactly the same device as the JMI NGC-Max, the Orion Sky Wizard, theLumicon Sky-something-else, and half a dozen others, too.how well does it work and can you specify a particular RA/Dec to go to?It works reasonably well.

A friend of mine has an NGC-Max on his Newt whichhas a typical pointing accuracy of half a degree or so. It's certainly asgood as manual setting circles, but not in the same league as devices likethe LX200.You are aware, presumably, that it won't move the telescope for you? It hasan object library, and when you select a device it shows you which way tomove the telescope to get there.Also, if I manually move the Dec/RA of the scope (i.e.

By releasing theclamps and moving the tube with my hands), does the AAM track my movementsso the RA/Dec that it reports are correctYes.OR do I always have to move thescope using the AAM?The AAM can't 'move the scope'.I'm curious since I found one for a good price and wasinterested in hearing if it is worth it.The Tangent device are pretty reasonable, but personally I prefer the SkyCommander. If, however, you've got the chance of getting an AAM at a goodprice then go for it - it's a heck of a lot better than nothing!Chris-Chris Marriott, SkyMap Software, UK Visit our web site atAstronomy software written by astronomers, for astronomersRob Miller24.04.99 00:00.

Thanks for the information. I was aware that it wouldn't 'slew' the scopelike, say, an ETX. I wanted something that would be a little better/moreaccurate than old-fashioned setting circles to aid in my CCD work.

I'vebeen pretty successful the old-fashioned way, but wanted to see if I couldimprove my object location ability with a digital type readout and accuratetracking. Based on some of the private emails I've received, it sounds likethe digital approach may help me out. I also wanted to connect it to a fewsoftware packages that I have so I could see where I was on the computerscreen.-Rob MillerRemove the 'x.'

In front of myemail address to send me email.Chris Marriott wrote in messagenews:92491.1.nnrp-11.9e9809e7@news.demon.co.uk.Rob Miller24.04.99 00:00. The cost would be for both the AAM and the Encoder. I'm going to use it onmy Celestar Deluxe. I didn't original buy their computerized versionbecause it was about $600 more. But, since I can get the pieces that wouldhave been included in the computerized version for a lot less than the $600additional cost, I thought it would be worth it.-Rob MillerRemove the 'x.' In front of myemail address to send me email.Chuck Hancock DMD wrote in messagenews:3721BC45.797E@bellsouth.net.

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Rob, I.think. the AAM is the same as my Lumicon NGC SkyVector from Lumicon. If so, it tells you whare to point, but all the movement is done the old-fashioned way.

With the SkyVec, there are three models, ditto the Orion model, and these appear to be the same, only relabeled, too. You can use the RA/Dec mode, and the handheld computer device tells you where your telescope is pointing. The SkyVec is always On, so it knows where you are pointing at all times.

If the price is Really Good, get it, but beware of hidden costs, like the mounting hardware. BTW, Lumicon has 8192-step encoders available.Regular Strength. encoders are 2000-step, and I've seen 4000-step encoders advertized as Hi-resolution.

OTOH, if the mounting hardware is included w/ your deal, and it was designed For Your Telescope, it may make for a very well integrated package, possibly better than a 3d-party's hardware mounting scheme. Best regs, Chuck Hancock Rob Miller wrote: Anyone have any opinions on the AAM? I'm interested in it.

Inparticularhow well does it work and can you specify a particular RA/Dec to go to? Also, if I manually move the Dec/RA of the scope (i.e. By releasing the clamps and moving the tube with my hands), does the AAM track mymovements so the RA/Dec that it reports are correct OR do I always have to movethe scope using the AAM? I'm curious since I found one for a good price andwas interested in hearing if it is worth it.

- Rob Miller Remove the 'x.' In front of my email address to send me email.Will Fiveash24.04.99 00:00. From: (Will Fiveash)Date: 24 Apr 1999 19:01:49 GMTRob Miller writes:Anyone have any opinions on the AAM? I'm interested in it.

In particular,Well, I have an older model (1990) and it hasn't worked very well for me.The Polar alignment mode is a joke and to top it off, I was told byCelestron that there is no way for me to upgrade the ROM/software.What?? I've upgraded my NGC-MAX three times.

The program and databaseare all on a single chip. And what is especially odd is that the outsidebox says Celestron on it, as well as JMI Jim's Mobile Industries. SLMR 2.1a.

Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally. Internet: Fidonet: Jim Van Nuland 1:143/11 A service of the San Jose IBM PC Club, running OS/2 WarpAlex & Sheryl Vukasin25.04.99 00:00. Jim Van Nuland wrote: From: (Will Fiveash) Date: 24 Apr 1999 19:01:49 GMT Well, I have an older model (1990) and it hasn't worked very well for me. The Polar alignment mode is a joke and to top it off, I was told by Celestron that there is no way for me to upgrade the ROM/software. What??

I've upgraded my NGC-MAX three times. The program and database are all on a single chip. And what is especially odd is that the outside box says Celestron on it, as well as JMI Jim's Mobile Industries.I've had mine (got it with celestar 8) about two years now.

When I turn it on,it displays Celestron 10k database V3.50. What's the latest version?Rob Miller25.04.99 00:00. Rob, if you want to connect the DSC box to a PC, you would be better off goingwith the Sky Commander for $275. It has a pretty simpleinterface which reads out the RA and DEC coordinates, once you have it set up.Most of the Tangent boxes (all of them??) only send out direct encoder readings,as pointed by Chris Marriott in earlier postings, which means you have tore-align using PC software.

Sky Map Pro works with the Sky Commander, but notthe Tangent boxes for example. What the other programs (TheSky, Guide, etc) workwith, I don't know.Alan FiggattRob Miller wrote: Thanks for the information. I was aware that it wouldn't 'slew' the scope like, say, an ETX.

I wanted something that would be a little better/more accurate than old-fashioned setting circles to aid in my CCD work. I've been pretty successful the old-fashioned way, but wanted to see if I could improve my object location ability with a digital type readout and accurate tracking.

Based on some of the private emails I've received, it sounds like the digital approach may help me out. I also wanted to connect it to a few software packages that I have so I could see where I was on the computer screen. Rob Miller Remove the 'x.' In front of my email address to send me email.Rob Miller25.04.99 00:00. Rob -I wish we had the same - you've got the deluxe model.I had to purchase theDEC motor separately and enjoy the 'non-stability' and 'inaccuracy' of theWedgepod as opposed to the wedge and a better tripod.

In addition to that,yours has better drive accuracy and PEC.Anyway, the AAM works great. Basically, you align on two stars (it has adatabase of 28 bright alignment stars) and then make adjustments accordinglyuntil you've got a polar alignment to your satisfaction.

Scroll to any objectin the database, and it tells you how far to move the scope in RA and DEC. Asyou approach the target, the numbers reduce. Once you're at 0.0 and 0.0 takea look in the eyepiece. Usually the object will be within the field of viewof the included 25mm SMA eyepiece.

If not, a little scanning up and down andright and left will locate it visually. IMPORTANT. There was a critical mis-print in the manual concerningthe initial setup of the AAM. In the SETUP Mode, step 9 stated that AZ shouldbe set to +4000. It should read -4000.

It took a few.VERY. frustratingmonths to get this figured out.

I could almost always align on one star,sometimes two, but when it came to locating an object, I'd often find thescope aiming at my lovely patio! I would have had this cleared up a lotsooner than I did if had just called Celestron (which I finally did and theywere very helpful.)Good luck - let me know if I can be of any further help. I've got a fewpictures through the scope if you'd like to see them, visit.Alex VukasinRob Miller wrote: I've got the same scope as you. How does the AAM work with it? Have you been happy with it?

- Rob Miller Remove the 'x.' In front of my email address to send me email. Alex & Sheryl Vukasin wrote in message I've had mine (got it with celestar 8) about two years now. When I turn it onit displays Celestron 10k database V3.50. What's the latest version? Rob Miller25.04.99 00:00. On 24 Apr 1999 19:01:49 GMT, (Will Fiveash) wrote:I also own the advanced asromaster and removed the encoders from myscope about one month after installing them.

The encoders were neververy accurate and I could use the manual seting circles and starhopping techniques much easier than farting around trying to get theadvanced astromaster to accurately read-out my ra and dec.By the way, the astromaster computer will not improve tracking as youmentioned for a reason to purchase in one of your earlier posts.